RG 18 AMC Flying Disc Reports (1948) — Hobson OH / FBI Cleveland Cross-Reports

Official title: 18_6369445_General_1948_Vol_1
Department of War PDF Partial
Incident date
6/15/48
Incident location
N/A
Released by DOW
5/8/26
Case ID
RG18-6369445-vol1
Source URL
war.gov original ↗

Our research summary

RG 18 AMC general file for 1948 containing flying-disc incident reports forwarded to HQ USAF and AMC Wright-Patterson under ADC Letter 45-5, including a June 1948 Eleventh Air Force (Harrisburg, PA) report of a phosphorescent disc-shaped object seen 8 May 1948 over Hobson, Ohio by New York Central railroad personnel (Ben Rupe, Bob White, C.K. Hibe), originally reported by FBI Special Agent D.K. Brown of the Cleveland office.

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Prior disclosure: Partial

1948 flying-disc incident reports under ADC Ltr 45-5 are part of the Project Sign/Grudge/Blue Book corpus declassified in the 1970s; many such Hobson, Ohio / NYC railroad-witness reports appear in Blue Book case files now on Fold3 and Black Vault. The FBI Cleveland field-office cross-reports were also released in the FBI Vault UFO file. This specific compiled folder may not have been scanned before, but the underlying case material has been public for decades.

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                 Refiort ‘of #'Flying Discs"


TO:              Chief of Staff
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                Washington 25, D. C.
                ATIN:      Director of Intelligencey
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       1.       In complisnce with paragraph la, 40 Létter 45-5,         25 larch
1948, the' following information relative to "Flying Discs'              is hereby
sutnitted.           _The attached report wes received this fleadquarbers 27May
1948, from opeclal Agent, D.K. Brown, Federal Buredu of Imestlbat1 on,
Cleveland C}u.c.               This Headquarters has no further information and is
not :.m.tlatln" any investigation.in accordance with paragraph 2, ADC
Ltr. 45-5,           ‘Any additional information received by this neadquartere
will be immediately. forwerded to.your Headguarters.               Copies of repdrt
hawe been forwarded to Hg. s#ir iateriel Command and Hg. Air Defense
Command as directed in above mentioned directive.

                      a.   Location and time of sighting - Hobson; Ubio; night of
                           8 May 48«      ;                         e

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                                at the time - unlkuown by this Hq.

                      G    Names, OCCflyathnfi, and addresses of witnesses — addresses
                           Ben Rupe, Mew York (entral System Car Inspector       unknown.
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                 A         Bob_white, Yard Clerk, N.Y.C,
            '              C. K, H:Lbe, t’atrolman, i

                      . Fhotographs of objects, if aw;ailabl\; - unknown this Hq,
                      kS ékétches of objects c‘onfiguration - unknown this Hg,
                      f.   Ubjects sighted:

                           (1) Number - not known this lleadquarters

                           (2). Shape - round

                           (3) oize - appeared to be nine inches J.n diameter -from
                           3     ground level,
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               ().   Color £ phosphorescent

               (5)   ;;;esd & Great amount. of speed

               (6)   Heading - 90°

               (7)   anueverability - not known

               (8)   Altitude - 6 to 8 miles

               (9)   ourd - unknown to this Hae

               (10) Lxhaust 'trail or not -~ Phosphorsscent trail in the sky

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                TO: - Chief ofStaff,     USAF,   Washington 25,       D,   C.,   Attn:     Dir    of Intelligence                    11     Apa


                       Forwarded in accordance with         paragraph.k-of        letter cited in basic
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                                                                          12 April 1948




         SUBJECT:       Report   of Information on "Flying Disc"


         THRU      :    Commanding General
                        Air University
                        Maxwell Air Force Base
                        Montgomery,   Alabama
                        ATTN:    AC of S,   A-2

         TO        ¢    Commarding General
'                       United States Air Force
                        Washington 25, D,    C.
                        ATTN:    Director of Intelligence



                 The attached information is forwarded in compliance with USAF Letter,
         subj:     "Reporting of Information on "flying Discs", dtd 6 February 1948,


                       FOR THE COMVANDING GENERAL:




         1 Tnel —                                    /S/ J..B. PRICE
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                                                            Adjutant
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                SUBJECT:       Flying Dises

                TM        ¢    Commanding General
                               Alr Materiel Command
                               Wright~Patterson Air Force Base
                               Dayton, Chio
                               ATTN:   MCI



                     Pomrdc\d for your information,
                     BY COMMAND 'OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF:




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             DISPOSITION FORM                                                            vEESTRIOTED
FILE No.                                   SUBJECT

            AFOIR-CO-5                             Reporting of Information on "Flying Discs,!
To~    CSGID


                                                                                                 27 FEB1a4a opmenTihel
                                           FROM     HQ.   USAF   —

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                   Lt.Col. Smith

    1., It is Air Force policy not to ignore reports of sightings and phenomena in
the atmosphere, but to recognize that part of its mission is to collect, collate,
evaluate, and act on information of this nature.

        2. In Implementing this policy the Air Materiel Command has been designated
       the Air Force agency to collect, collate, evaluate and distribute to interested
      Mernment agencies and contractors all information concerning sightings and pheno-
mena in the atmosphere vhich can be construed to be of concern to the national security.
       3,    All Air Force installations within and outside Zone of Interior and Alaska
have been instructed to report all sightings, or information concerning sightings
which comes to their attention, direct to the Comanding General, Air Materiel Com=
mand, Wright-Fatterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio, Attn: MCI.
       4.    Air Materiel Command has been authorized direct contact with all Air Force
installations whenever required to develop additional information on the flying discs.
       5.    It is requested that all Department of the Army installations also be instruct—
ed to report such occurrences directly to Air Materiel Command and that they be in-
formed that Air Materiel Command is authorized to contact them direct when necessary
in comection with such occurrences.

       6.    If possible, reports to Air Materiel Command should include the following
information:

             a.,    Location and time of sighting
             b.     Weather at the time
             c.     Names, occupations, and addresses of witnesses
             d,     Photographs of objects, if available
             e.     Object sighted:                  -
                     (1) Number         (4) Color         (7) Maneuverability         (10) Exhaust trail
                     (2) Shape          (5) Speed   (8) Altitude                                  or not
                     (3) size           (6) Heading (9) Sound

             g.     (General remarks

             FOR THE CHIEF OF STAFF:


                                                                     Ce P, CABI
                                                                     Major General, U.S.A.F.
                                                                     Chief, Air Intel, Req.             Div,
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      AVOIR-CO=5                           Reporting of Information on "Flying I
    )                                       Y. USAF - APOIR
    Attn: Plans & Collectien
                Branch
            it,Col, Smith

    1. It is Air Force policy not to ignoreofreports of sightings and phencmena in
the atmosphere, but to recognize that part    its mission is to ¢ollect, collate,
evaluate, and act on information of this nature.
    2. In Implementing this policy the Air Materiel Comman     d has been desigmated
   the Air Force agency to collect , collate , evaluat e, and distri bute to interested
    ramert agencies and contractors all inform  aticn  concer ning sighti  ngs and pheno-
mena in the atmosphero which can be constru  ed to be   of concern to  the  national security.
    3. AlL Alr Force installations within and outside Zone of Interior and Alaska
have been imstructed to report all sightings, or inform           ning sightings
                                                         ation concer
which comes to their attention, direct to the, Comnan ding General, Air Materiel Com-
mand, Wright-Pattersen Alr Force Base, Daytonm  Chie,  Attn: ¥CI.

    Lo Air Materiel Command has bsen authorized direct oont-iut ni‘h all Air Ferce
                                        p additienal infermation on the flying discs.
installations whenever required to develo
                                                              ations also be instruct-
    5, It is requested that all Department of the Army installand
ed to report such ccourrences directly to Air lateriel Comman    dthat they be in-
                                d is
formed that Alr Materlel Commanences. suthor ized to contac t them direct when neccssary
in comection with such occurr

¢ 6. If poseible,; Teports to Alr kateriJ el Comsant should Lntlude the following
B  ormations                                                         HQ. USAF
         8, Location and time of sighting -                         §                    2 7Fl
                                                        b                        .
         b      Weather at the time
         ¢. Names, cccupations, snd addressesable
                                               of witnésses                     CAG-                       JOH
         d.     Photographs of objects, if avail
         e,     Object aighteds
                 1? Number (J.;' Color           (7) Meneuverability (10) Exhaus t trail
                 2 Shape        (5) Speed        s; Altitude                or not
            s     ) size        (6) Heading      (9)    Sound

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TO:    EHQ, USAF, AFOIR     FROM:   D/I, GSUSA - DATE:       25 Mar 48://SQMMENT NO. 2
                                                             Lt. Col.       Smith/2931/jes

       1.   Action on Comment No.   1 has been campleted by request for information
at Inclosure 1. °

       2.   It is requested that Air Materiel Command be directed to trensmit to
the Director of Intelligence, GSUSA, an informetion copy of each commnication
received from or sent to commands subordinate to the Department of the Army in
connection with so-called "flying disc" reports.

            FOR THE DIRECTCR (F INTELLIGENCE:




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                             HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FCRCE
                     Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2
                                    Intelligence
                             Hamilton Field, California


LAFDA=3/1208-1                                                Mar 11, 1948

SUBJECT:    Investigation of Flying Disc.




TO:         Chief of Staff
            United States Air Forces
            Washington, D. C.
            ATTN:   Directorate of Intelligence
                    Air Intelligence Requirements Division




     l.  Incident reported on 9 March 1948, this headquarters, per
telephone call from Sgh A. M. Larsen, Sheriff's office, Bakersfield,
California,

            as   Observation by Mr. Les Buchner, Bakersfield, California,
of two objects falling to earth from unknown source on 5 March 1948
between 1610 and 1655 hours,      Description of objects similar to falling
aircraft with smoke and debris trailing.   Observation made at Bakersfield
with objects sighted southwest toward Buerna Vista Lake, California.

          b.  Observation by Mr, Denio, employee of the Pacific General
Electric Company, Bakersfield, California, of two objects which fell to
earth from unknown source north of Bakersfield, California, 8 March 1948,
One object seemed to be on fire with red and black smoke trailing behind.

      2.   Informant Larsen stated that searching parties, aircraft and
rescue units have made numerous attempts to locate these reported objects
without success,


      3.   Investigation of incident has been initiated by this headquarters.
Report will follow,                                           '   -



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                                         /S/ DONALD L. SPRINGER
                                             Lt. Colonel, USAF
                                             AC of S, A-2
Information to:
   ADC, Mitchel Fld, N.Y,
  FBI, San Francisco
  C-2, Sixth Army
  DIO, San Francisco (12th Nav, Dist)




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                                            SUBJECT:                                   Flying Discs

                                            T0;                                        Commanding General
                                                                                       Alr Materiel Command
                                                                                       Wright-Patterson Alr Force Base
                                                                                       Dayten, Ohio
                                                                                       ATTN:  I



                                                                             1,        Reference is made to Colonel McCoy's informal proposal
    ‘                                       that certain fighter aircraft be mintained en & continuous alert
                                            status, within the Zone of the Interior, to ald in gathering in-
                                            formation on Flying Discs,

                                                  2.                                   This proposal is congidered unfeasible for the following
                                            reasons:                                           :

                                                    -                                  a. The outlay of aircraft and persomne      l
                                                                                                                         would be teo                                                                                                        ‘                            .
                                            great in relation to the results obtained,                                                                                                                                                                                    |

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                                          dent, without complete radar coverage.                                                                                                       The Air Force is                                                     Q A
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                                        A%                                          e,                 Jt is doubtful if fighter aircraft would bs able to
                                            follow up reports emanating, for the most part, from eivilian scurces,

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     T0:        Director of Plans and Uperations                               oate     12 FEB 1948
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     FROM:      Director of Intelligence                              Lt. Col 83{‘}25'{7/&17‘:52:?
                  1. By letter from this Headquarters, dated 30 December 1947 with subject
             as above, the Commanding General, Air Materiel Command is instructed to 'set up
             a project whose purpose is to collect, collate, evaluate and distribute to
             interested government agencies and contractors all information concerning sight—
             ings and phenomena in the atmosphere which can be construed to be of concern to
             the national security".

                  2,   The Commanding General, Air Materiel Command feels that the responsibility
                                                                                           on the
             assigned to him for collecting and developing information and intelligence installa
             nflying discs" should be complemented by & requirement that  all  Air Force          -
                                                                     of  one  each fighter  or
             tions in the United States and Alaska provide a minimum & continuous alert basis,
             night interceptor type aircraft, with necessary crews, on
             These aircraft should be equipped with gun camera, and such armament as deemed
                                                                                ment of all
             advisable, in order to secure photographs necessary to the obtaimthe
             possible data on any reported and sighted unusual phenomena, of       "flying disc"
             type, in the atmosphere.

                  3. It is envisaged that each Air Force installation maintaining object aircraft on
             an alert basis for this purpose would  invest igate  all  unusual  flying        s
             reported fram any source in any area  over which  it  has  cogniza nce.   Such a program
             would obviously require & detailed Standard Cperating Procedure, in the preparation
             of which Air Materiel Command should cooperate.

                  L.   Your comments and/or concurrence are requested.

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                                                               C. P, CABELL
                                                               Brigadier General, U.S.A.F.
                                                               Chief, Air Intel. Req.   Div.
                                                               Directorate of Intelligence




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    SUBJECT:
                      Flying Dises

    TO:               Director of Intelligence                                          e          3 MAR 1948


                                                  h                                     COMMENT No._2
    FROM:             Director of Plans and Operations                                 Major Cook:csk 72233


                 1.    The proposal of Air lateriel Command for stationing fighter aircraft at all
     bases on a continuous alert status is not considered feasible for the following reasons:
                       a.   The outlay of aircraft and personnel would be too great consistent with
     the results to be obtained.

                       b.   Proper interception is mot possible, except by accident, without complete
              dar coverage which the Air Force is not capable of providing.

                       c.   It isg doubtful if fighter aircraft would be able to follow up reports
     enanating, for the most part, from civilian sources.

          2. It is recommended that Air Materiel Command's responsibility for “collecting"
     information on unusual phenomena in the atmosphere be confined to the establishment of
     direct channels for the receipt of such information.

          3. It is further recommended that in lieu of the proposal of Air Materiel Command,
     all other major commands be directed to cooperate with Air Materiel Command and to channgl
     information directly to that command.




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                                                                    5. E. ANDERSON
                                                                    Major General, U.S.A.F.
                                                                    Director of Plans and Operations.




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  B/L fm Hq. Tenth Air Force, Brooks Fld, San Antonic, Texas, dtd
    7 Jan 48, subj:       "Flying Disks"


 AFCIR=-CO-5                       lst Ind.

 Dept. of the Adr Foree, Hq.        USAF, Washington 25,   D. C.    "8   MAR 1948


 TO:.     Commanding General, Air Materiel Command,     iiright-Fatterson Adr
            Force Base, Deyton, (hic
          ADTN:   TSDIN

          Porwarded as 4 matter pertaining to your Command.

          B CCMMAND 'CF THE CHIEF OF STAVP:




                                    DOUGLASS W. EISEMAN ~~               DTSSR
                                    . Colonel, U.S.A.F.
                                    Emecut ive, Air Intelligencs Requirements Div,
                                     Dirgotorets of Intelligemos




P 99606
        Ref: B/L fm 10th A.F{ dtd 7 Jan 48, subj: es above




        Lt, Col Garret
D°333.5                                                     7 January 1948


   SYBJECT: . "Flying ‘Disks!


   TU:          Chief of Staff
                United States Air Force
                Washington 25, D. C.
                ATTN: - Director of Intelligence

                CGommading General
                Alr:   Defense   Command
                Hitchel Field, New York
                ATTN:  Asst Chief of Starf, 4-2

                Commanding General
                Fourth Army
                Tt .Sam Houston,     Texas
                ATTN:    Asst Chief of Staff,   G2



          Inclosed is Summary of information prepared by the Ter_fl,h A::LJ‘ Force
  Lesident Agent at Houston, Texas covering a report of "Flying Disks"
  received by the FBL Office at H

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