FBI 62-HQ-83894 Serial 438 — Lonnie Zamora / Socorro NM (Apr 24 1964)

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Serial 438 of 62-HQ-83894 — the FBI's report on the Lonnie Zamora sighting at Socorro, New Mexico on April 24, 1964, written by Albuquerque SA D. Arthur Byrnes Jr. and dated May 8, 1964 — one of the most-investigated and widely-cited unexplained UFO cases in U.S. history.

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                              UNITED           STATES           DEPARTMENT OF                         JUSTICE


                                          FEDERAL BUREAU                   OF       INVESTIGATION


In Reply, Please Refer to                       Albuquerque,                    New      Mexico
File No.                                                    May           8,    1964




                                              UNIDENTIFIED FLYING                          OBJECT
                                              SOCORRO,          NEW        MEXICO
                                              APRIL 24,          1964



                              Special Agent                D.    Arthur              Byrnes,          Jr.,       Federal
           Bureau       of    Investigation,                stationed                 at    Albuquerque,                New
           Mexico, was at Socorro, New Mexico, and at the                                                        State
           Police Office there on business late afternoon                                                        of
           April 24,          1964.

                              At    approximately                5:45           to    5:50       P.    M.,       Nep    Lopez,
           radio       operator          in    the    Socorro County                       Sheriff's             Office,
           located       about       thirty          feet       down           the    hall       from       the    State
           Police       Office,          came       into    the           State       Police          Office.


                              Mr.    Lopez          advised          M.        S.    Chavez,          New    lMexico      State
           Police,       that       he    had       just    received                 a radio          call from          Officer
           Lonnie      Zamora        to    come       to    an       area           about    one       mile       southwest
           of    Socorro.           The       call    was       in        relation          to    some       unknown
           object      which        "landed          and    has           taken       off."           Agent       Byrnes
           finished          his    work       in    the    State              Police       Office          at    Socorro
           at    approximately             6:00       P.    M.,           April       24,     1964,         and    there-
           after       proceeded          to    the       site where                 Officer          Zamora,
           Socorro       County          Undersheriff                Jim        Luckie,          Sergeant          M.    S.
           Chavez,       and       Officer          Ted    Jordan,              New      Mexico        State       Police,
           were    assembled.


                              It    may    be       noted       that           it    has    been       the       observation
           of    Agent      Byrnes        that       Officer              Zamora,          known       intimately             for
           approximately             five       years,          is        well       regarded          as    a    sober,
           industrious,             and    conscientious                    officer          and       not       given
           to fantasy.


                             Officer          Zamora was                  noted       to be       perfectly             sober
           and    somewhat          agitated          over      his        experience.


                             Special          Agent       Byrnes           noted           four       indentations
           in    the   rough        ground       at    the       '"site"            of     the    object         described



                                          s document contains
                                                                               neither   recommendations
                                          ®er conclusions
                                                          of any            Lind.        1t is the property
                                          of the FBI, and is a loa
                                                                           n to your agency;
                                          its contents are not
                                                               to be distribyuted             outside your
                                          agency,
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

by Officer Zamora.  These depressions appeared regular
in shape, approximately sixteen by six inches rectangular.
Each depression seemed to have been made by an object
going into the earth at an angle from a center line. Each
depression was approximately two inches deep and pushed
some earth to the far side.

              Inside the four depressions were three burned
patches of clumps of grass.  Other clumps of grass in the
same area appeared not to be disturbed.  One burned area
was outside the four depressions.

          There were three circular marks in the earth
which were smooth, approximately four inches in diameter
and penetrated in the sandy earth approximately one-eighth
of an inch as if a jar 1lid had gently been pushed into
the   sand.

          No other person was noted in the area the night
of April 24, 1964.  No other objects were noted in the
area possibly connected with the incident related by
Officer Zamora.

          So far as could be noted, there were no houses
or inhabited dwellings in the area or in sight of the area.
                                                           1          .-



                            UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

                                  FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

                                      Albuquerque,             New    Mexico
In Reply, Please Refer
                     to                        usy    8,       1964
File No.




                                  UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OGBJECT
                                  SOCORRO, NEW MEXICO
                                  APRIL 24, 1964



                     Special Agent D. Arthur Byrmes, Jr., Federal
           Bureau of Investigation, stationed at Albuquerque, New
           Mexico, was at Socorro, New lMexico, and at the State
           Police Office there on business late afternoon of
           April 24,      1964.

                     At approximately 5:45 to 5:50 P, M., Nep Lopez,
           radio operator in the Socorro County Sheriff's Office,
           located about thirty feet down the hall from the State
           Police Office, came into the State Police Office.

                     Mr. Lopez advised M. S. Chavez, New Hexico State
           Police, that be had just received & radio call from Officer
           Lonnie Zamora to come to an are2 about ome mile southwest
           of Socorro.  The call was in relation to some unknown
           object which      "landed    and    has    taken off.”              Agent        Byrnes
           finished his work in the State Police Office at Socorro
           at approximately 6:00 P. M., April 24, 1964, eand there-
           after proceeded to the site where Officer Zamora,
           Socorro County Undersheriff Jim luckie, Sergeant M. S.
           Chavez, and Officer Ted Jordan, New Mexico State Police,
           were assembled.

                          It may be    noted       that    it    has    been the        observation
           of Agent Byrnmes that Officer Zamora, known intimately for
           approxinately five years, is well regarded as a sober,
           industrious, and conscientious officer and not given
           to fantasy.

                     Officer Zamora was noted to be perfectly sober
           and somewhat agitated over his experience.

                          Special Agent Byrnes noted four                      indentations
           in the rough ground at            the    "site"      of     the object described



                                   This decument contains neither recom
                                                                       mendations
                                   nor conclusions of any kind.        it is the preperty
                                   of the FBY, and is 2 loan to your agenc
                                                                            y; it and/er
                                   Hs contonts are not te be distr
                                                                   ibuted outside your
                                   agency,
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

by Officer Zamora. These depressions appeared regula  r
in shape, approximately sixteen by six inches rectan gular.
Each depression seemed to have been made by an object
going into the earth at an sngle from a ceante r line. Each
depression was approximately two inches deep and pushed
some earth to the far side.
            Inside the four depressions were three burned
patches of clumps of grass. Other clumps of grass in the
same area appeared not to be disturbed. Ome burned ares
was outside the four depressions.

          There were three circular marks in the earth
which were mmooth, approximately four inches in diameter
and penetrated in the sandy earth approximately one-gighth
of sn inch as if a jar 1id had gently been pushed into
the sand.

            No other person was noted in the area the night
of April 24, 1964. No other objects were noted in the
area possibly connected with the incident related by
Officer Zamora.

            fo far as could be noted, there were no houses
or inhabited dwellings in the area or in sight of the area.
                              UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

                                    FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

                                      Albuquerque, New Mexico
In Reply, Please Refer to
File No.
                                                 Hay 8, 1964




                                    UNIDENTIFIED FLYING CBJECT
                                    SOCCRRO, NEVW MEXICO
                                    APRIL 24, 1964


                     Special Agent D, Artlax Byrnes, Jr., Federal
           Bureau of Investigation, statiomed at Albuquerque, New
           Mexico, was at Socorro, New lexico, axd at the State
           Police Office there om business late afternoon of
           April 24,        1964,

                     At approximately 5:45 to §:50 P. M., lep lopez,
           radio operator in the Socorro County Sheriff's Office,
           located about thirty feot down the hall from the State
           Police Office, came into the State Police Office.

                     v, lopez advised #. 8. Chavez, New lexito State
           Police, that he had just received 2 radioc call from Officer
           Lonnie Zamora to ¢oms to an area about one mile southwest
           of Socorro.         The call was in relation to some unimown
           object which "landed and has taken off.” Ageont Byrnes
           finished his work in the State Police Office at Socorro
           at approximately 6:00 P. M., “pril 24, 1964, and there-
           after proceeded to the site where Officer Zamora,
           Socorro County Undersheriff Jim lLuckie, Sergeant M. 8.
           Chavez, and Officer Ted Jordan, New Mexico Stmte Police,
           wore asscmbled.

                     It may be noted that it has been the chservation
           of Agent Byrues that Officer Zamora, kmown intimately for
           approxinately five years, it well regarded as a sober,
           industrious, and counscientious officer and not given
           to fantasy.

                     Officer Zamors was noted to be perfectly sober
           and somewhat agitated over his experience.

                     Special Agent Byrnes noted fowr indentations
           in the rough ground at the "siteTM of the object described


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UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

                    These depressions appeared regular
in shape, mmuxymw-u inches rectangular
gach deprossion meemed to have boon made by =a object
going into the earth at an angle from a center line. Each
depression was spproximately two inches deep and pushed
somg onrth to the far side.

            Inside the fouwr depressions were three burned
patches
  of clumps of grass.         Other clumps of grass in the
sane svea sppesred not to bo disturbed.    One burned ares
was outside the four depressions.

          There were three circulsy marks in the emxrth
which were smooth, approximstely four inches in dismetor
and pesotrated in the sandy earth approximestely one-eoighth
o&nfihufla;nmmmwmwmto
    sand.


            No other person was noted in the area the
of April
       24, 1964.     No other objects were noted in the
aren possibly comnected with the ineident related
                                               by
officer Zamore.

            fo far as could be noted, there were no houses
or inhebited dwellings in the aren or in sight of the avesm.
                             UNITED STATES               DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

                                        FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

                                            Albuquerque,             New     Mexico
In Reply, Please Refer to
                                                       May     8,    1964
File No.




                                          UNIDENTIFIED FLYING                 OBJECT
                                          SOCORRO, NEW MEXICO
                                          APRIL 24,         1964



                             The       following data were                obtained      from Officer

           Lonnie     Zamora,           Police      Department,           Socorro,      New      Mexico,


           the    night      of April 24,            1964,     and early morning,                  April 25,

           1964,    as      related by        Officer        Zamora.


                             Lonnie       Zamora,      606 Reservoir Street,                     Socorro,

           New Mexico,            835-1134,         Officer Socorro Police Department

           about    five         years,    office      phone        835-0941,        now    on     2:00       P.   M.


           to    10:00      P,    M.    shift,

                             About       5:45 P.      M.,    April 24,          1964,      while        in

           Socorro 2 Police Car                  (1964 Pontiac white)                 started to chase

           a car    due      south       from west       side       of    Courthouse.          Car       was


           apparently            speeding,       and was       about       three     blocks        in    front.


           At    point      on Old Rodeo            Street,      (extension of             Park Street

           south),       near George          Morillo residence                 (about one-half mile

           south    of      Spring Street).              The    chased        car was       going        straight


           ahead    toward         rodeo    grounds.           Car       chased was        a new        black

           Chevrolet,            (it might       have been Floyd Reynolds'                     boy,          Vivian,

           about    17).         Chased car still              about       three     blocks        ahead.


                                          This document contains
                                                                     neither recommendations
                                          nor conclusions of
                                                             any kind.        it is the preperty
                                          of the FBY, and is a loa n to
                                                                          your agency; it
                                                                                          and/er
                                          its contents are not to be
                                                                     distributed outside
                                                                                            your
                                          agency,
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

Lonnie    alone.

             At this time heard a roar and saw a flame in the

sky to the southwest some distance away--possibly a half

mile or a mile.     Came to mind that a dynamite shack in that

area had blown up.     Decided to abandon the chase, and to

check on the flame.     The flame was bluish and sort of orange

too.     Could not tell size of flame.      Sort of motionless

flame, slowly descending.       Was still driving the police car

and could not pay too much attention to the flame.          It was

a narrow type of flame.        It was   like a "stream down'-- a

funnel type--narrower at top than at bottom.         Flame possibly

three degrees or so in width--not wide.         The flame was

possibly a mile south of Socorro, in isolated area.

             The flame about twice as wide at bottom as top,

and about four times as high as top was wide.         Did not

notice any object at top, did not note if top of flame was

level.     Sun was to west and did not help vision.       Had green

sun glasses over prescription glasses. // \              Could not


see bottom of flame because it was behind the hill.

             No smoke noted.     Noted some "commotion'" at bottom--

dust?     Possibly from windy day--wind was blowing hard.          Clear

sunny sky otherwise--just a few clouds scattered over area.
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

             Noise was a roar, not a blast.    Not   like a jet.

Changed from high frequency to low frequency and then

stopped.     Roar lasted possibly ten seconds--was going towards

it at that time on the rough gravel road.       Saw flame about

as long as heard the sound.       Flame same color as best as

recall.    Sound distinctly from high to low until it disappeared.

Both car windows were down.        No other spectators noted--no

traffic except the car in front--and car in front might have
heard it but possibly did not see it because car in front

was too close to hill in front, to see the flame.

             After the roar and flame, did not note anything,

while going up the somewhat steep rough hill toward the

flame site.     Got up about half way first time, wheels started

skidding, roar still going on, had to back down and try twice

again before made the hill.        Hill about sixty feet long, fairly

steep and with loose gravel and rock.        While beginning third

time,   noise   and flame not   noted.

             After got to top,    traveled slowly on the gravel

road westwardly.      Noted nothing for awhile, for possibly

ten or fifteen seconds, went slow,       looking around for the

dynamite shack--did not recall exactly where the dynamite

shack was.
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING               OBJECT

               Suddenly       noted      a shiny    type    object       to    south

about      150 to 200 yards.             It was off       the road.           At   first

glance,     stopped.         It    looked,    at first,      like       a car turned

upside down.          Thought       some   kids might       have    turned         over.

Saw two people         in white coveralls            very close to             the object.

One of      these    persons       seemed to turn and look straight                       at

my car and seemed startled--seemed to quickly jump somewhat.

               When I first saw the object,                  (when I thought it

might be      a car),       I saw what appeared to be               two       legs   of

some type      from the object to the ground.                      At    the time,         I

didn't pay much attention to what                    it was--I thought it was

an accident--I saw the two persons.                        I didn't pay attention

to the two '"legs?".               The two '"legs'" were at the bottom

of the object, slanted outwards to the ground.                                 The object

might have been about thee and a half feet from the ground

at   that    time.     I    just    glanced    at   it.

               At    this    time    I   started moving my          car towards            them

quickly, with idea to help.                   Had stopped about               only   a

couple seconds.             Object was       like   aluminum--it was whitish

against the mesa background,                  but not chrome.             Seemed         like

     //f     in shape and I at first glance took it to be an
     ~
overturned white car.                Car   appeared turned up like standing
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

on radiator or on trunk,      at this first glance.

            The only time I saw these two persons was when I

had stopped, for possibly two seconds or so, to glance at

the object.     I don't recall noting any particular shape

or possibly any hats or headgear.        These persons appeared

normal in shape--but possibly they were small adults or

large   kids.

            Then paid attention to road while drove towards scene.

Radioed to sheriff's office, "Socorro 2 to Socorro, possible

10-44 (accident); I'1l be 10-6 (busy) out of the car checking

the car down in the arroyo."

            Stopped car, was still talking on radio, started

to get out, mike fell down, reached back to put up mike,

then replaced radio mike in slot, got out of car and turned

to go down to where knew the object        (car) was.

            As my mike fell,      I got out of car,   at scene    area,

I heard about two or three loud '"thumps," like someone

possibly hammering or shutting a door or doors hard.,            These

"thumps" were possibly a second or less apart.           This was

just before the roar.       The   persons were not seen When I got

up to the   scene   area.
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

             Hardly turned around from car when heard roar,

(was not exactly a blast), very loud roar--at that close

was real loud.      Not like a jet--knows what jets sound like.

started low frequency quickly, then roar rose in frequency

(higher tone) and in loudness--from loud to very loud.             At

same time as roar saw flame.            Flame was under the object.

Object was starting to go straight up--slowly up.            Object

slowly rose straight up.        Flame was light blue and at bottom

was sort of orange color.         From this angle, saw what might

be the side of object (not end, as first noted).            Difficult

to describe flame.        Thought, from roar, it might blow up.

Flame might have come from underside of object, at middle,

possibly a four feet area--very rough guess.            Can not

describe flame further except blue and orange.            No smoke,

except dust    in   immediate   area.

             As soon as saw flame and heard roar,        turned away,

ran away from object but did turn head several times towards

object.   Bumped leg on car--back fender area.           Car facing

southwest.     Glasses fell to ground,        left them there.    Ran

to north--car between       him and object.

             Object was    C::)    in shape.     It was smooth--no

windows or doors.      As roar started,       it was still on or near

ground.   Noted red lettering of some type,             |
                                                     like
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

Insignia was about two and one-half feet high and about
two feet wide, guess. Was in middle of object, like
                    .   Object still like aluminum-white.

           After fell by car and glasses fell off, kept

running to north with car between me and object.      Glanced

back couple of times.      Noted object to rise to about level

of car, about twenty to twenty-five feet, guess--took I

guess about six seconds when object started to rise and I

glanced back.    I ran I guess about half way to where I

ducked down--about fifty feet from the car is where I ducked
down, just over edge of hill.       I guess I had run about

twenty-five feet when I glanced back and saw the object about

level with the car and it appeared about directly over the
place where   it rose from.

           I was still running and I jumped just over the

hill--I stopped because I did not hear the roar.       I was

scared of the roar, and I had planned to continue running

down the hill.    I turned around toward the object and at

same time put my head towards ground, covering my face with

my arms.   Being that there was no roar,     I looked up, and I

saw the object going away from me, in a southwest direction.

When the roar stopped, heard a sharp tone whine from high

tone to low tone.       At end of roar was this whine and the
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

whine lasted maybe a second.    Then there was complete

silence about the object.    That's when I lifted up my head
and saw the object going away from me.     It did not come

any closer to me.    It appeared to go in a straight line
and at same height--possibly ten to fifteen feet from ground,
and it cleared the dynamite shack by about three feet. Shack
about eight feet high. Object was traveling very fast. It
seemed to rise up and take off immediately across country.
I ran back to my car and as I ran back, I kept an eye on the
object.    I picked up my glasses, (I left the sunglasses on
the ground), got into the car, and radioed to Nep Lopez,
radio operator, to "look out the window, to see if you could
see an object."     He asked, "What is it?"   I answered, "It

looks like a balloon."     I don't know if he saw it.   If Nep

looked out his window, which faces north, he couldn't have
seen it.    I did not tell him at the moment which window to

look out   of.

            As I was calling Nep, I could still see the object.

The object seemed to 1lift up slowly, and to 'get small" in
the distance very fast.     It seemed to just clear the Box

Canyon or Six Mile Canyon Mountain.      It disappeared as it
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

went over the mountain.   It had no flame whatsoever as it

was traveling over the ground, and no smoke or noise.

           Can't tell how long saw object second time (the

"close" time), possibly twenty seconds--just a guess--from

time got out of car, glanced at object, ran from object,

jumped over edge of hill, then got back to car-and radioed
as object disappeared.

           Just before Sergeant Chavez got to sceme,     I got

my pen and drew a picture of the insignia on the object.

           Feeling in good health.    Last drink--two or three

beers--was over a month ago.     Noted no odors.   Noted no

sounds other than described.    Gave directions to Nep Lopez

at radio and to Sergeant M. S. Chavez to get there.      Went

down to where the object had been and I noted the brush was

burning in several places.     At that time,   I heard Sergeant

Chaves,   (New Mexico State Police at Socorro), calling me

on radio for my location, and I returned to my car, told

him he was "looking at me."     Then Sergeant Chavez came up,

asked me what the trouble was, because I was sweating and

he told me I was white, very pale.     I asked the Sergeant

to see what I saw, and that was the burning brush.       Then


                                -9
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING         OBJECT


Sergeant   Chavez    and    I    went   to   the   spot,   and Sergeant

Chavez   pointed    out    the    tracks.
                                  UNITED STATES           DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

                                        FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

                                           Albuquerque,            New     Mexico
In Reply, Please Refer to                             May    8,    18964
File No.




                                        UNIDENTIFIED FLYING                 OBJECT
                                        SOCORRO,       NEW    MEXICO
                                        APRIL 24,         1964


                            The following data were obtained from Cfficer

           Lonnie Zamora,             Police Department, focorro,                        New Meoxico,

           the night of April 24,                   1964, and early morning, April 25,

           1964,     as related by Officer Zamora.

                             Lonnie Zamora,          606 Reservoir Street, Socorro,

           New Mexico, 835-1134, Officer Socorro Folice Department

           sbout five years,              office phone 835-0941,                   now on 2:00 P,         M.

           to   10:00       P.   M.   shift,

                             About     5:45    P,   M.,   Apwril 24,          1964, while          in

           Socorro 2 Police Car                (1964      PFontiac white) started to chase

           a car duo south from west side                         of Courthouse.                Car was

           apparently speeding,                and was about three blocks in fromt.

           At point on Old Rodeo Etreet,                      (extemsion of               Park Street

           south), near George                Morillo residence               (about one-half mile

           south of Spring Street).                    The chased car was going straight

           ahead toward rodeo grounds.                      Car chased was a new black

           Chevrolet,            (it might     have been Floyd Reynolds' boy,                        Vivian,

           about     17).        Ciased car still about three blocks ahead.


                                       This document contains neither
                                                                          recommendations
                                       #or conclusions of any
                                                              kind.       it is the property
                                       : the FBI, a0d is a loan to your
                                                                          agency; it and/or
                                          contents are not to
                                                              be distributed
                                       o



                                                                                   i
                                                                               outside
                                                                                         your
UNIDENTIFIED
      FLYING (BJECT

Lonnie alone.

            At this time heard a roar and saw o flame in the

sky to the southwest some distance away--possibly & half

mile
 or a mile.        Came to mind that a dynamite shack in that

arvea hnd blown
             up. Decided to sbandon the chase, and to

chock
  on the flame,        The flmme was bluish and sort of orange

too.     Could not tell size
                         of flame.       Sort of motionless

flame, slowly descending.      Vas still driving the police car

and could not pay too much attemtion to the flame.          It was

2 narrow
    type of flame.            It wes like a "stream down'e- &

funnel type--narrower at top than st bottom.          Flmme possibly

three degrees or S0 in width--not
                              wide. The flame
                                           was

possibly a mile south
                  of Socorro, in isolated avea.

            The £lsme sbout twice as wide at botiom as top,

and about fowr times us high as top was wide.         Did not

notice any object at top, did uot note if top of flmme was

level.    Sun was to west and did mot help vision.       Had green

sun glasses over maseription glasses.           /7|     Could not
                                            /


                                           ok


see bottom
         of flame becsuse Lt was behind the hill.

             o smoke notod.    Noted some "commotionTM at bottom—-

dust?     Possibly from windy day--wind was blowing herd.,      Clear

sunny sky otherwise-—just & few clouds scattered over area.
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING (BRECT

             Noise
               was a roar, mot
                            & blast.          Not like
                                                    & jet.

Changed from high frequemcy to low frequenmcy and then

stopped.    Ropr lasted possibly ten seconds--was going towsrds

it at that time on the vrough gravel road.     Faw Liame about

a8 long 2& beavd the sound.      Flame same color as best as

recikli.,   Sound distinctly
                     from high to low until it disappeared.

Both car windows
            were down.           No other spectators noted--no

traffic except the car in fromt--mid car in frout might have

heawd it but possibly did not se¢ it because cmxr in front

was too clome to hill in frout, to see the flmme.

             After the roar and Llsme, did not note anything,

while going up the somewhat sleep rovgh 21l toward the

flsme site.    Got up about bhalf way fivet tinme, wisels started

skidding, roar still going on, had to back down and try twice

sgain before made the hill,      Hill sbout sixty feet long, fairly

stoep snd with loose gravel and yrock.     While beginmning third

time, noise and flame not noted.

             Aftor got to top,   traveled slowly om the grawl

road westwardly.    Noted nothing for awhile, for possibly

ten or fifteen seconds, went olow, looking sround for the

dynamite shack--did not recall exsctly where the dynmmite

sheck was.
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      FLYING CBJRCT

           Suddenly noted & shiny type ohject to south

sbout 150 to 200 yards.      It was off the road,     At first

glance,   stopped.    It looked, at first,   1like 2 cmr turned

upside down.    Thought some kids might have turned over.

Baw tvo people in white coweralls very close to the object.

One of those persons seemed to furn and lock straight at

my caxr and seemed startled--seemed
                          to quickly junp somewhat.

           When I firet saw the object,      (vhen   I thought it

might be a oar),     I saw what appeared to be two legs of

some type from the object to the groumd,       At the time,
                                                          I

didu't pay smch attention
                     to what it was--I thought it was

an accidort--I
       saw the two persoms.                I didn't
                                               pay attention

to the two "legs?"’.    The two "lags" were nt the bottom

of the object,    slanted outwerds to the ground.      The object

might have been sbout thee aund 2 half feet irom the groumd

at that time.     I just glanced
                             at it.

           At   this tise   I started moving my car towsards them

Quickly,
   with idea to help.             Had stopped
                                         sbout oniy a

couple seconds.      Object was like aluminum--it
                                           was whitish

sgaioet the mesa backgroumd,
                      but pot chrome.,               Seemed like

  [} 7 tn cmpe wed 3 ob Sives gleass Siok 3% 15 be a
  M
overturned
     white car.             Cm   appesved turned up like standing




                                  i
UNIDENTIFI    ZD
      FLYING OBJECT

on radiator or on trunk, at this firet glamnce.

          The only time I saw these two persons was when I

had stopped, for poss   ibly
                    two seconds or so, o glance at

the object.   I don't recall noting any particulsr shape

or possibly any hats or headgesr.   These persons appeared

normal                                           o
     in shape--but possibly they were small adults

large kids.

          Then paid attention to road while drove towards scone.

Radioced to sheriff's office, "Socorro 2 to Socorro, possible

10-44 (accident); I'11 be 10-6 (busy) out of the cir checking

the car down in the arroyo.”

          £topped car, waes still talking on radio, started

to got out, mike fell down, resched back to put up mike,

then replaced radio mike in slot, got out of car and turned

to go down to where kmew the object (car) was,

          A2 my mike fell,   I got out of cxr, at scens area,

I hourd sbout two or three loud "thumps," like someone

poseibly hammering or shutting & door or doors bad.    These

"thamps"
   were possibly a second
                     or less apart.               This was

just before
        the roar. The persons were not seen when I got

up to the scene area.
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             Hardly turned around from car when heard roar,

(wvas not exactly & blast), very loud roar--at that close

was veal lowd.     Not like a jet--Imows what jets sound like.

Started low frequency quickly, then voar rose in frequency

(higher tone) and in loudness--from
                           loud to very loud.                       AS

same time as roar saw flame.          Flame was under the object.

Ohject was starting to go straight up--slowly up.             Object

slowly rose straight up.        ¥Flame was light blue and at bottom

was sort of oramge color.        ¥From this angle, sav what might

be the side of object       (not emd, as first noted).       Difficult

to describe flmme.        Thought,   from roar,    it might blow up.

Flame might have come from underside of object,            at widdle,

possibly & four feet area~-very rough guess.            Can not

doscribe flame further except blue and orangs.             No smoke,

except dust in immediate area.

             As soon as saw flame and heard roar,         tuarned away,

ran sway from object but did turn hesd several times towards

object,   Bumped leg on car-~-back fender area.          Car facing

southwest.     Glasses fell to ground,      left them there.      Ran

to norih--car between him and object.

             Object was    C>        i shape.     It was smooth--no

windowe or doors.     As romr started,      it was still on or nesr

ground. Noted red lettering of some type, like m .
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UNIDENTI     OBJRCT
          FIED

Insignin was about two and ono-half feet high and sbout
two foet wide, guess.      ¥as in middle of object, like

      /A)           .   Object still like alumimum-white.
            Aftor fell by oar and glasses foll off, kept

running to north with car between me and objeci.      Glanced

back coupl    e
        of times.           Noted objec   t to about level
                                     to rise
                                                    I
of cax, sbout twenty to twenty-five feet, guess-—took

guess about six secunds when object started to rise and I
glanced back.,   I ran I guess about half way to where I

ducked down~-sbout f£ifty feot from the car is wheve I ducked
down, just over edge of hill.       I guess I had run shout

twenty-£five feet when I glanced back and saw the object about

level with the car and it appeared about directly over the

place where it rose from.

            I was still rusning and I jumped just ovexr the

hille-] stopped because I did not hear the roar.       I was

scared of the roar, and I had planned to continue running

down
 the hill.        I twned sround toward the object and at

same time put my head towards ground, covering my face with

ny arms.   Being that there was no r»oar, I looked up, and I

saw the object going awey from me, in & scuthwest directiom.

¥hen the rosr stopped, heard s shexrp tone whine from high

tone to low tome,       At end of romr was this whine and the
UNIDE   NTIF
   IED FLYING OBJECT

whine lasted maybe & second.      Thon there was complete

silence sbout
          the object.          That's when I lifted up my head

and saw the cbject going sway from me.          It did not come

any closer
       to me.          It appeared €0 go in a strvaight line

and
 at same beight--possibly
               ten to fifteen feet from ground,

and it cleaved the dynamite shack by sbout thwee fset.            Shack

sbout eight feet high,     Object was traveling
                                           very fast.               It

seensd to vise up and take off immediately across country.

I ran back to my car and #s I ran back, I kept an eoye on the

cbject.     I picked
                uwp my glasses,          (I left the sunglasses
                                                             on

the ground), got into the car, and radiced to Nep Lopez,

radio operstor,     to "look out the window, to ses if you could

seo an object.”     He asked, "What
                                is it?"           I snsweved, "It

looks Iike s balloon.”      I don't imow if he maw it.     If Nep

looked out his window, which faces north, bhe couldan't have

seen it.,   I did mot tell him at the moment which window %o

look
  out of,

            Az   I was oalling Nep,     I could still se¢ the object.

The object seowmed to 1ift up slowly,        and to "got small” in

the distance
        very fast.          It seomed to just clear the Box

Canyon or Six Mile Canyon Mountain.,         It disappeared
                                                        ss it




                                 ~8en
UNIDENTIFI     ED
      FIYING OBJECT

went over the mountain.   It had no flame whatscev  it
                                                 aser

was traveling over the ground, and no smobke 0r noise.

                          saw object second time (the
          Can't toll how long

"glose" time), possibly twenty seconds-—-just a guess-——from

time got out of car, glanced at object,
                                  ran from ohject,

jumped over edge of hill, them got back to car and radiced

as object disappeared.

          Just before Sergeant Chevez got ¢o scene, I got

ny pen and drew & picture of the insignia on the object.

          Feoling
            in good health.            last driak-~iwo
                                                  or three

beers--yas
    over a month ago.            Noted
                                   mo odors.      Noted
                                                      ne

sounds other than described.    Gawe dirvections to Nep Lopez

at radio and to Sergesnt M. €. Chavez to get there.      Went

down to where the object had boén and I noted the brush was

burning
  in several places.           At that time, I hosmrd Sorgeant

Chaves, (New Mexico State Folice at Socorra), ¢alling me

on radio for my location, and I returned to my car, told

him he was "looking
                st me." Then Sergesnt
                                Chavez came up,

ssked wme what the trouble was, becsuse I was sweating and

he told m¢ X wasm white, very pale.,    I asked
                                            the Sergeant

to seoe what I saw, and that was the burning byush,    Then


                                -G
MNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

Sergesnt Chavez and I went to the spot, and Sevgesnt
Chavez pointed out the tracks,
                              UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

                                  FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

                                      Albuquerque,           New    Mexico
In Reply, Please Refer to                        May    8,   1964
File No.




                                   UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT
                                   SOCORRO, NEW MEXICO
                                   APRIL 24, 1964


                            The following data were obtained from Officer

           Lomnie Zamora, Police Department, Socorro, New Mexico,

           the night of April 24, 1964, and early morning, April 25,

           1964, as related by Officer Zamora.

                            Lonnie Zamora, 606 Reservoir Street, Socorro,

           New Mexico, 835-1134, Officer Socorro Police Department

           about five years, office phone 835-0941, now on 2:00 P, M.

           to 10:00 P.        M. shift.

                            About 5:45 P.      M., April 24,            1964, while in

           Socorro 2 Police Car (1964 Pontiac white) started to chase

           a car due south from west side of Courthouse.                                  Car was

           apparently speeding, and was sabout three blocks in fromt.

           At point on 0ld Rodeo Street,                  (extemsion of Park Street

           south), near George Morillo residence                        (about one-half mile

           south of Spring Street).                The chased car was going straight

           ahead toward rodeo grounds.                  Car chased was a new black

           Chevrolet,        (it might have been Floyd Reynolds' boy, Viviam,

           about 17).         Chased car still about three blocks ahead.

                                 This document contains neither recommendations
                                 nor conclusions of any kind 3     it is the   property

                                 ..‘ the FBY, and is a loan to your agency; it andfor
                                 its contents are not to be distributed outside
                                                                                your
                                 agency,
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING CGBJECT

Lommie zlome.

             At this time heard a yoar and saw & flame in the

sky to the southwest some distance away--possibly a half

 or a mile.,
mile                Came to mind that a dynamite shack in that

area had blown
            up. Decided to abandon the chase, sad to

check
  on the flame.         The f£lame was bluish and sort of orange

too.     Could not tell size of flame.     Bort of motionless

f£lane, slowly descending.      Was still driving the police car

and could not pay too much attention to the flame.         It was

a narrow
    type of flame.             It was like a "stream down''—w a

funnel type--narrower at top than at bottom.        Flase possibly

three degrees or so in width--not
                              wide. The fiame
                                           was

possibly & mile south of Socorro, in isolated area.

             The flame about twice as wide at bottom as top,

and about four times as high as top was wide.        Did not

notice any object at top, did not note if top of Llame was

level.     Bun was to west and did not help vision.     Had greem

sun glasses over prescription glasses. /‘              Could not

                                                {

see bottom of flame because it was behind the hiil,

             No smoke noted.    Noted some “"commotion” at bottow—

dust?     Posgibly from windy day--wind was blowing hawrd.      Clear

sunny eky otherwise--just a fow clouwds scatiered over arvea.
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT

             Noi   se
               was & roar, not & blast.             a jet.
                                              Not like

Changed fraom high frequency to low frequency and then
stopped, Roar lssted poseibly tem seconds--was going towsrds
it at that time on the rough gravel road.      Saw flame about

as long a= heard the sound.      Flame same color as best s

recall,   Sound distinctly from high to low uniil it dissppeared.

Both car window    s No other spectators noted--no
            were down.

traffic except the car in front-~and car in front night have

heard it but possibly did not see it because car in front

was too close to hill in front, to see the fliane.
             After the roar and f£lmme, did not note anything,

while going up the somewhat steep rough hill toward the

flame site.     Got up sbout half way first time, wheels started

skidding, vour still goiag on, had to back down and try twice

again bofore wade the hill,      Hill about sixty feet long, fairly

steep and with loose gravel and rock.      VWhile beginning thirgd

time, noise and flame not noted.

             After got to top,   traveled slowly om the gravel

road westwardly.     Noted nothing for awhile, for possibly

ten or fificen seconds, went slow, looking around for the

dynanite shack--did not recall sxactly where the dynamite

shack was.
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          fuddenly noted a shiany type object to mouth

sbout 150 to 200 yards.     It was off the road.   At first

glance, stopped.    It looked, at first, like a car turned

upside down.    Thou   ght
                  some kids might have twrned over.

Saw two people in white c

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